Posts tagged: brushless motor

EVPlasmaman scooter

By Jerome, October 12, 2009 12:47 pm

When I was at the Maker faire 2009, I saw this guy pass me with a electric scooter. I remember seen that scooter on the internet, his personnal website http://blog.evplasmaman.com/.

I yelled  ” hey man” and he stop and we start talking. His name is Jos :)

He use a 3000W ( 4HP ) AXI 5345/18 GOLD LINE brushless motor.MAKER_FAIRE_2009_ 113

He also use Lithium Iron phosphate (LiFePO4 ) battery

The setup use 48 A123 cells.  4 cells in parallel and then 12 sets of those in series to make ~42Volts.

Is top speed is 20Mph. He also has a 3:1 planetary gear box. It turn out to be 4:1 with the ratio of the chain.

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The gear box is from Matex gears.

You can find more picture here http://photo.gangus.com/v/Jos/scooter/ and on his personnal blog http://blog.evplasmaman.com/.

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Motor installed

By Jerome, September 16, 2009 8:55 am

Here is how it looks all assembled. I had no real problems when I assembled it. Everything fit perfectly!

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After testing the scooter, I realise that this beefy motor bracket acts has a heat shrink! I was amazed to see that the heat was transfert to the side of the scooter, I remember the first time I touch the side, it was pretty warm. This pretty good new. I am also planning to have a fan attach to the motor to give better cooling. I am making some fan design to test it out.

The motor bracket

By Jerome, September 13, 2009 11:16 am

To install the motor to my frame, I need a beefy bracket to hold that 2HP motor. I took a scrap piece of 2″x2″ 1/4inch aluminum plate. I made some drawing in autocad to have my template and start drilling my bracket.

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A little bit of milling to make every straight.

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The 4 screws are the original one that came with the motor. I really need to put some “loctite” so the motor does not fall. Vribation is your ennemy!

motor_bracket_ 005To prevent the pulley from moving out, I make a slot in the shaft so I could insert a “C” clip.

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Next time, I will test the autocad file on cardboard before making the real part. The mounting hole are not perfectly aligned.

My first rolling test!

By Jerome, July 4, 2009 5:48 am

I have been having real problem at home with my internet provider (Bell sympatico). There is one of there router in Toronto that has a problem with my IP. So I can not use my FTP account and I am having problem with wordpress so I can not edit or created any new post. I also realise that I can edit the time I post news. ( Like this one :) )

Right now,  I did my first test on my Scooter! That might sound weird since there is no post about my other modifications I made. I will post them after this one.

I went today see the guys at www.vamudes.com to borrow a 60A brushless speed controller and some batteries. Vamdues is a technical group here at the University of Sherbrooke that build Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV). I also went to see them because they might need a hand to build there new plane.

I have videos of my first scooter and specifications. The batteries they had was a  Thunder Power RC Pro Lite MS 8000mAh 14.8V.

Specifications for Thunder Power RC TP-8000-4S4PL ProLite MS Military Spec LiPo:

  • Voltage: 14.8V
  • Cells: 4S4P
  • Capacity: 8000mAh
  • Max Continuous Discharge: 16C
  • Max Burst Discharge: 25C
  • Max Continuous Current: 128A
  • Max Burst Current: 200A
  • Weight: 633g
  • Dimensions: 29 x 50 x 255mm

This is a very expensive battery. It cost $329.95 USD. I will not use that in my scooter, not for 330$ and it is only 14,8V!

When it was charge the battery was at 16V and my motor can take up to 36V! We only had one single 16V battery on the scooter.  The motor is so powerfull that it can make wheelies very easy! You really need to be gentle on the throttle. I would guest the speed around 20km/h. It was rainning outside so I did not test it with my GPS to see the official speed.

I will edit the video and post it online.

Inside the motor

By Jerome, July 3, 2009 7:10 am

This is my first time playing with a brushless motor, I am very intrigue so I had to take it appart. I also needed to change the shaft, so I DO need to look inside.

Here are the pictures.

electric_scooter_2009_-015C-clip need special pliers to remove, it hold the shaft in place.

electric_scooter_2009_-018They was some spacer with different thickness. I guess when they insert the shaft in, the c-clip is not at the exact same place so this is compensate with different spacers.

electric_scooter_2009_-020The helen key on the back has to be remove.

electric_scooter_2009_-022Now you pull everything appart and get this!

There is 14 magnets and 12 coils. I also notice that all 3 wires are very long stripped wire that are twisted into coils. I have no clue is the windings is in Start or Delta. I would guest it is in Delta to provide more torque.

You are probably asking what is about having 14 magnets, 12 coils and what is Delta? Will talk about that in future post!

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