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	<title>Jérôme&#187; Electric scooter</title>
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		<title>Got my Nano-tech batteries</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I got my batteries and my charger. It took 6 days. I still paid $57 of shipping!!! ( I was a heavy package, around 4kg (8.8lbs) )  That charger is huge. I can charge four 22.2V(6S) battery at once! That is really nice! My 250W can give 13A at 12V. I will measure with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">So I got my batteries and my charger. It took 6 days. I still paid $57 of shipping!!! ( I was a heavy package, around 4kg (8.8lbs) )  That charger is huge. I can charge four 22.2V(6S) battery at once! That is really nice! My 250W can give 13A at 12V. I will measure with my multimeter see if the charger can deliver that much. I have to be careful because the fuse of my Fluke is 10A!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Scooter_belt_tensioner_17Aug2010_0010.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-892" title="Scooter_belt_tensioner_17Aug2010_0010" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Scooter_belt_tensioner_17Aug2010_0010-546x409.jpg" alt="turnigy charger and batteries" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I just tested the scooter with one battery and I am more then happy with the speed! I hit 30km/h (18-19Mph) which is perfect!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have a nice video and great data. I am writing a post about it.</p>
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		<title>Ryno motors – self-balancing, one wheel, electric scooter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was surfing the web and saw this neat balancing electric scooter. It is created by Ryno motors. Here are some videos: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wTfQiGFAKE www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7uvv7EYqg0 www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgt0wj3Hzk Here are the specs of the prototype Range Up to 30 miles Max Speed 25 mph Recharge Time LiFePo4 1 ½ hours Tire Diameter 25 Weight of Bike 125 lbs. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was<a href="http://wackyboards.blogspot.com/2010/08/ryno.html"> surfing the web</a> and saw this neat balancing electric scooter. It is created by Ryno motors. Here are some videos:</p>
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</span><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wTfQiGFAKE&fmt=18">www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wTfQiGFAKE</a></p></p>
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</span><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7uvv7EYqg0&fmt=18">www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7uvv7EYqg0</a></p></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Rhino_motors.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-886" title="Rhino_motors" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Rhino_motors-286x409.jpg" alt="rhino motors seld balancing scooter" width="286" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here are the specs of the prototype<br />
<strong>Range</strong> Up to 30 miles<br />
<strong>Max Speed</strong> 25 mph<br />
<strong>Recharge Time LiFePo4</strong> 1 ½ hours<br />
<strong>Tire Diameter</strong> 25<br />
<strong>Weight of Bike</strong> 125 lbs.<br />
<strong>Footprint</strong> 16 x 34<br />
<strong>Max Hill Incline</strong> 30%<br />
<strong>Max Rider Weight</strong> 250lbs<br />
<strong>Turning Radius</strong> Zero to 3 ft.<br />
<strong>Estimated Retail Cost</strong> $3,500</p>
<p>You can find more informations on there website<br />
<a href="http://rynomotors.wordpress.com">http://rynomotors.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>This looks like the <a href="http://www.brp.com/">Bombardier </a>Embrio concept. The Embrio has smaller front wheel that acts like a stability control when the Embrio is stopped or traveling below 12mph.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bombardier_embrio.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-870" title="bombardier_embrio" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bombardier_embrio.jpg" alt="bombardier embrio" width="400" height="299" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bombardier_embrio_angle.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-871" title="bombardier_embrio_angle" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bombardier_embrio_angle.jpg" alt="bombardier embrio" width="400" height="283" /></a></p>
<p>Or the Canadian Benjamin Poss Gulak, with his one unicycle with two wheels.<br />
<a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_unicycle_motorcycle.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-867" title="Ben_Gulak_unicycle_motorcycle" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_unicycle_motorcycle-354x409.jpg" alt="ben gulak uno balacing one wheel scooter" width="354" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_uno.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-868" title="Ben_Gulak_uno" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_uno-492x409.jpg" alt="ben gulak uno balacing one wheel scooter" width="492" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here is the new U2 version. It is a hybrid between a motorcycle and what you see there. I opens like scissors and unfolds into a motorcycle. (Not really like scissors, more of a  linear motion)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_u2.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-873" title="Ben_Gulak_u2" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_u2-546x307.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="307" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_u2_fold.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-874" title="Ben_Gulak_u2_fold" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Ben_Gulak_u2_fold-230x409.jpg" alt="" width="230" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>I just notice that Ben has a blog! <a href="http://bpgulak.com/">http://bpgulak.com/</a></p>
<p>He his working on this neat track scooter call DTV.</p>
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<p>Thanks to Hung Chang for is cool blog wackyboards where I learn about Ryno motors. <a href="http://wackyboards.blogspot.com/2010/08/ryno.html">http://wackyboards.blogspot.com/2010/08/ryno.html</a></p>
<p><strong>PS-</strong> It is <strong>RYNO </strong>motors and not Rhino like the url</p>
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		<title>Your parcel has been sent from the HobbyKing.com warehouse!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finish my finals! I have a few weeks off before my next intership. I have a tonne of video to upload because I have been using the scooter a lot!! I have a couple of miles on it. I broke the belt a couple of time and I am right now waiting for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finish my finals! I have a few weeks off before my next intership.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/S6_finish.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-847" title="S6_finish" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/S6_finish-546x409.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>I have a tonne of video to upload because I have been using the scooter a lot!! I have a couple of miles on it. I broke the belt a couple of time and I am right now waiting for a new belt, got 2 this time.<br />
I am also working on a belt tensionner, I realise it is important (but to lazy to build one) since the belt slips a lot due to high torque when starting the scooter.</p>
<p>I bought these new Turnigy Nano-Tech battery from hobby king.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" title="hobby king nano tech" src="http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/N6000-6S-25-1.jpg" alt="" width="565" height="377" /></p>
<p>Here are some of the highlight</p>
<ul>
<li>Fast charge capable, up to 15C on some batteries.<br />
Longer Cycle Life, almost double that of standard lipoly technology.</li>
<li>Internal impedance can reach as low as 1.2mΩ compared to that of 3mΩ of a standard Lipoly.</li>
<li>Less Voltage sag during high rate discharge, giving more power under load.</li>
</ul>
<p>Since V = RI, and we have a 3mΩ resistance per cell  in my standard battery and consume 80Amp at peak.</p>
<p>When you have 14,8V, that is 4 time 3,7V cell. Since they are in series, we should then have a 3mΩ * 4 = 12mΩ for a pack.</p>
<p>V = 0.012A * 80<br />
V = <strong>0,960V of drop out</strong>. (960mV)</p>
<p>With the 1.2mOhm<br />
V = 0.0048A * 80<br />
V = <strong>0,384V of drop out</strong>.   (384mV)</p>
<p>There is a difference of 576mV. 40% difference.</p>
<p>That is theoretical, how does it stand up in real life?<br />
Here are the measurement I got from live test.</p>
<hr size="1" /><strong>Test 1</strong></p>
<p>82.51A Peak Amp<br />
Nominal Voltage 16.52V and the minimum voltage sag was 15.58V</p>
<p>16.52V-15.58V = <strong>0.940V</strong><br />
0.940V/82.51A = <strong>11.393mΩ</strong></p>
<hr size="1" /><strong>Test 2</strong></p>
<p>77.83A Peak Amp<br />
Nominal Voltage 15.65V and the minimum voltage sag was 14.71V</p>
<p>15.65V-14.71V = <strong>0.940V</strong><br />
0.940V/77.83A = <strong>12.078mΩ</strong></p>
<hr size="1" /><strong>Test 3 &#8211; Going up a steep uphill!<br />
</strong></p>
<p>81.04A Peak Amp<br />
Nominal Voltage 16.67V and the minimum voltage sag was 15.37V</p>
<p>16.67V-15.37V = <strong>1.3V</strong><br />
1.3V/81.04A= <strong>16.041mΩ</strong></p>
<hr size="1" /><strong>Test 4 &#8211; After 1 kilometer<br />
</strong></p>
<p>72.85A Peak Amp<br />
Nominal Voltage 15.23V and the minimum voltage sag was 13.95V</p>
<p>15.23V-13.95V = <strong>1.28V</strong><br />
1.28V/72.85A = <strong>17.57mΩ</strong></p>
<hr size="1" /><strong>Test 5 &#8211; After 1.36 kilometer<br />
</strong></p>
<p>70.03A Peak Amp<br />
Nominal Voltage 15.98V and the minimum voltage sag was 14.88V</p>
<p>15.98V-14.88V = <strong>1.1V</strong><br />
1.1V/70.03A = <strong>15.708mΩ</strong></p>
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<p>I realise after looking at those results that in some test I have the initial voltage and some the &#8220;after the ride&#8221; voltage. That make my result not consistent and semi false.<br />
<br />
There is difference between the voltage read at the beginning of the test and the one at the end. In my notes I had some results where I am not sure it that is the voltage are at the beginning or the end of the ride.<br />
I will be careful during my next test.<br />
<br />
There is many test to be done again with the new batteries. Can&#8217;t wait to see if I spend to much money on those batteries!</p>
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		<title>Inside a ebike hub motor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was in Calgary doing my intern at Solarbotics, I when to this store called Power in Motion that specialize in urban electric transportation.  They had this neat demo wheel of the inside of a hub motor. Here are the hall effect sensor. There is 3 sensors. Here you can see the slot inside [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">When I was in Calgary doing my intern at Solarbotics, I when to this store called <a href="http://www.powerinmotion.ca/">Power in Motion</a> that specialize in urban electric transportation.  They had this neat demo wheel of the inside of a hub motor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0004.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-830" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0004" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0004-546x409.jpg" alt="electric hub motor" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0002.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-831" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0002" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0002-546x409.jpg" alt="electric hub motor" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here are the hall effect sensor. There is 3 sensors.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_00031.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-832" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0003" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_00031-546x409.jpg" alt="electric hub motor hall sensor" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here you can see the slot inside the shaft where the wires can travel.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0006.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-833" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0006" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0006-546x409.jpg" alt="48V lithium battery" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>There was also this neat battery. 48V 10.5Ah lithium battery. It weight 3.4Kg (7.5Lbs)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0005.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-834" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0005" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0005-546x409.jpg" alt="48V lithium battery" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0009.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-835" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0009" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0009-546x409.jpg" alt="48V lithium battery spec" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0010.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-836" title="Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0010" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Calgary_brushless_hub_motor_lithium_battery_100206_0010-546x409.jpg" alt="48V lithium battery" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">That could fit in my scooter. The only draw back of those specific battery is the continuous current discharge. It is very low. I think it is 2C so 20Ah&#8230; the motor consume about 4Ah with no load and I get surge current of 70Ah.</p>
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		<title>The new frame of scooter V2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone, Here is the work on the new revision of the original scooter. The original scooter is very small in length (29 inch). To select the new size of the new scooter, it was really easy. I just place my feet on the ground at a distance that I felt good and stable. Like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Hello everyone,</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Here is the work on the new revision of the original scooter. The original scooter is very small in length (29 inch). To select the new size of the new scooter, it was really easy. I just place my feet on the ground at a distance that I felt good and stable. Like on a snowboard.  So I added around 11 inch for a total of 40 inch (wheel to wheel).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Here is how I did.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0024.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-796" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0024" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0024-546x409.jpg" alt="electric scooter frame" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is the frame I found at <a href="Marché Aux Puces Ciné-Parc St-Eustache">St-Eustache flea market</a>, one of the biggest in Québec.  I paid 10$ for it. Just the frame no motor, no battery. They are in very good condition and normally, when found online, they cost 18$ for the front wheel and 20$ for the back one. So 10$ was a good deal.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have to go again to that flea market this summer! I will bring my dad, he loves flee market just like me!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0025.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-797" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0025" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0025-546x409.jpg" alt="electric scooter frame" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0025.jpg"></a>Saw the entire frame in 2.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0021.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-804" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0021" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0021-546x409.jpg" alt="scooter back wheel support" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0021.jpg"></a>I also made 2 of  those plate you see in the picture so I can give tension on the belt with the left end screw. When I turn the bolt, the washer (big circle)  is move to the left, it pulls the axle of the back wheel.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_00311.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-800" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0031" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_00311-768x1024.jpg" alt="drilling hole in scooter frame" width="409" height="546" /></a></p>
<p>To have a longer frame, I will use aluminium  L bracket. To mount them to my scooter, I drilled hole in the frame.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0026.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-801" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0026" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0026-546x409.jpg" alt="scooter frame side bar" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here I cut the L bracket.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100517_0005.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium  wp-image-805" title="Scooter_v2__100517_0005" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100517_0005-546x409.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>I also added other metal bracket to hold all the electronics in the middle of the frame.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0027.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-802" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0027" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0027-546x409.jpg" alt="side comparison scooter V1 and V2" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Here is the progress. It feels stables when I get on it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0028.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-803" title="Scooter_v2__100515_0028" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100515_0028-546x409.jpg" alt="side comparison scooter V1 and V2" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>The new 11 inch makes a huge difference!</p>
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		<title>New motor modification</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you remember this post about the new motor I got? After installation I had some minor problem with it. After I installed the motor, I saw this. Look closely, the outher shell (black) is touching the gold piece. There is suppose to be a gap between them. I machined this like spacer. Without the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you remember this <a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/2010/05/got-a-new-motor-for-my-scooter/">post about the new motor </a>I got? After installation I had some minor problem with it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100518_0004.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-812" title="Scooter_v2__100518_0004" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100518_0004-546x409.jpg" alt="new motor problems" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>After I installed the motor, I saw this. Look closely, the outher shell (black) is touching the gold piece. There is suppose to be a gap between them.</p>
<p>I machined this like spacer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0001.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-813" title="Scooter_v2__100604_0001" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0001-546x409.jpg" alt="motor spacer" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0002.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-814" title="Scooter_v2__100604_0002" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0002-546x409.jpg" alt="spacer" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Without the spacer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0002.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0003.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-815" title="Scooter_v2__100604_0003" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Scooter_v2__100604_0003-546x409.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>With the spacer. See the difference?</p>
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		<title>Gas moutain bike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I went for my AH1N1 vaccination back in 2009 I saw this bike in the middle of the mall. This man was offering his service to modify normal bike in crazy looking sounding moped. Chain tensioner I wonder the time it takes to get that sprocket spinning perfectly straight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I went for my AH1N1 vaccination back in 2009 I saw this bike in the middle of the mall. This man was offering his service to modify normal bike in crazy <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">looking</span> sounding moped.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0002.jpg"><img class="aligncenter  size-medium wp-image-785" title="gas_bike_091203_0002" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0002-546x409.jpg" alt="gas moutain bike" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0003.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-786" title="gas_bike_091203_0003" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0003-546x409.jpg" alt="gas moutain bike" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0004.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-787" title="gas_bike_091203_0004" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0004-546x409.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Chain tensioner</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0005.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-788" title="gas_bike_091203_0005" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gas_bike_091203_0005-546x409.jpg" alt="gas moutain bike" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>I wonder the time it takes to get that sprocket spinning perfectly straight.</p>
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		<title>Big LiFePO4 lithium batteries</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guys working on the Phoebus project, which is a 100% electric car, are testing these batteries.  I was able to grab some pictures and informations on them. The Phoebus project is a final engineering project done by mechanical and electrical engineering students at the University of Sherbrooke. I know a few guys on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">The guys working on the <a href="http://www.projetphoebus.ca/">Phoebus project</a>, which is a 100% electric car, are testing these batteries.  I was able to grab some pictures and informations on them. The Phoebus project is a final engineering project done by mechanical and electrical engineering students at the University of Sherbrooke. I know a few guys on the team.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Those are LiFePO4 lithium battery. They are very big.  They have a nominal capacity of 14Ah and a continuous discharge rate of 10C ( 140Ah) which is not a lot.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-3.jpg"> <img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-773" title="big_lithium_batteries (3)" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-3-546x409.jpg" alt="EIG lithium batteries" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-2.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-774" title="big_lithium_batteries (2)" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-2-546x409.jpg" alt="EIG lithium batterie" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Yep, those are big! Will not fit in my scooter! They are too wide for my scooter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-775" title="big_lithium_batteries (1)" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/big_lithium_batteries-1-546x409.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>Model number is F014 and it is manucfactured by <a href="http://www.eigbattery.com/">EIGbattery</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eigbattery.com/eng/product/5.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.eigbattery.com/eng/product/5.jpg"><img class="aligncenter" title="F104" src="http://www.eigbattery.com/eng/product/5.jpg" alt="" width="577" height="817" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The maximum discharge rate of those battery is very low, 10C. Normal RC lithium battery are now in the 30 to 40C. That is 40 time the nominal capacity, so when you have 5Ah that is 40*5=120Ah continuous discharge!</p>
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If I choose the EIG battery, I would use the C008 , C015 or F010. The other models are very long (20cm) and large (15cm).</p>
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		<title>Top speed with my scooter!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just realise that I forgot to post this. This is my scooter with the original motor. I was able to reach 40,3km/h!! That is 25Mph!! It was scary on my bad street road. When I came back of that ride, I also fell down at 34km/h, I pooped a wheelie and fell!! haha 2391W! [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realise that I forgot to post this. This is my scooter with the original motor.</p>
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<p>I was able to reach 40,3km/h!! That is 25Mph!! It was scary on my bad street road. When I came back of that ride, I also fell down at 34km/h, I pooped a wheelie and fell!! haha</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/scooter_speed_record_-002.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/scooter_speed_record_-005.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-383" title="scooter_speed_record_ 005" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/scooter_speed_record_-005-545x409.jpg" alt="scooter_speed_record_ 005" width="545" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>2391W!</p>
<p>Here are other shoot of the moment one of the 3rd wire of the motor got unplug. Here is the peak of current.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/scooter_speed_record_-006.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-384" title="scooter_speed_record_ 006" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/scooter_speed_record_-006-545x409.jpg" alt="scooter_speed_record_ 006" width="545" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>3270W</p>
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<p>That is 143AMP! That is alot of current! That did not help, the wires got hot and melted a little bit.</p>
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		<title>Motor bracket for Turnigy brushless motor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 01:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few days ago, I worked on the motor bracket. I also decided to make it bigger. I made is bigger because on the original bracket, I had one of the motor screws that was under a spacer. I had to remove the spacer to remove the screw. Since it is bigger, I have not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago, I worked on the motor bracket. I also decided to make it bigger. I made is bigger because on the original bracket, I had one of the motor screws that was under a spacer. I had to remove the spacer to remove the screw. Since it is bigger, I have not problem now.<br />
<img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-687" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0001" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0001-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>First I had to draw everything on the computer, I printed it to be sure I  had the perfect fit. This is the new scooter. Since my bracket is bigger I had to drill new holes in the frame. I took the piece of paper on glued on the frame.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-688" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0002" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0002-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>I wanted to be aligned so I turn on my LED flash light.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-689" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0004" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0004-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>Here are the new holes.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-690" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0003" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0003-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>I did the same thing here, I glued down the drawing and punch out the  holes.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-700" title="DSC06554" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/DSC06554-437x409.jpg" alt="" width="437" height="409" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-701" title="DSC06555" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/DSC06555-437x409.jpg" alt="" width="437" height="409" /></p>
<p>Those are the bottom and top of the bracket.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-691" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0007" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0007-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>The only concern I have is that I am wondering if I am loosing the natual air flow of the motor by putting the motor bracket right in front of the motor vent holes. I was thinking of drilling holes but need to be sure I will not make my new bracket fragile on the edge.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-692" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0005" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0005-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-698" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0011" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0011-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-693" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0006" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0006-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>On the right side of the spacer you can see washers, there are 3 washers, they help me to adjust the depth of the motor so I can aligned the belt.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-694" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0013" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0013-306x409.jpg" alt="" width="306" height="409" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-695" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0008" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0008-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-696" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0009" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0009-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>I am thinking of adding this fan to cool down the motor. I bought this 7 blades turbine fan on hobbyking. It is a little bit big put should do the job. I will need to machine a bracket to hold it to the motor.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-697" title="Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0010" src="http://www.jeromedemers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Turnigy_scooter_motor_bracket_100503_0010-545x409.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="409" /></p>
<p>I might try other solution like a 5V PC fan.</p>
<p>Today I tested the motor and it works! I test the 30$ motor and at high speed, it was making this very high pitch sound. I will probably need to adjust timing and frequency directly on the brushless controller.</p>
<p>I am concerned about the heat generated by the motor while free running. It was running at full speed with no load for a 2 minutes and it get warm. So a fan will be needed to ensure the magnet health.</p>
<p>Steps before first run</p>
<ul>
<li>Add belt tensionner</li>
<li>Enlarge frame</li>
<li>Wooden deck</li>
<li>Throttle wiring</li>
<li>Attach fan to motor</li>
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